1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Knock knock. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Who's there? 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,000 After dark? 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,000 And houses all across the United States. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Things that go bump in the night. 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:22,000 Can strike fear into even the bravest soul. 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Make yourself at home with truth or scare. 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,000 As we move into some of America's most haunted houses. 9 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:03,000 The United States. 10 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:08,000 The United States. 11 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,000 They say there's no place like home. 12 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Could that explain why some people never leave? 13 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,000 The United States has only been around for a little over 200 years. 14 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,000 That's been more than enough time for the ghosts of the dead to haunt lots of American homes. 15 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,000 At least that's what the people who live there say. 16 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Are these claims to be believed? 17 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,000 That's up to you to decide. 18 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,000 How and why does a house become haunted? 19 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:49,000 These questions have been asked but never really answered. 20 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,000 John Golsby claims he can see and communicate with the dead. 21 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:59,000 He says a haunted house is home to spirits that cannot let go of life. 22 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:07,000 People that the desire is so great within and that they have to keep coming back to where they existed 23 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:14,000 or there's some great emotional pullback and they cannot totally accept the fact that they've left the physical body. 24 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,000 One place it's said they won't leave is here. 25 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,000 The Winchester House in San Jose, California. 26 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Believe it or not, this house was built with ghosts in mind. 27 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,000 But there was one rule. 28 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Uninvited ghosts were not welcome. 29 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Twisting hallways, a maze of staircases, and doors to nowhere were designed to confuse evil spirits. 30 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Even though no one lives here anymore, Winchester House is open to tourists if they've got the guts to go in. 31 00:02:52,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Because in this house, they say glimpses of the dead are still a way of life. 32 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Shara Smith works at Winchester House. 33 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:10,000 The first time she was alone here, she wandered into one of the closed off rooms. 34 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:16,000 And I let the door close behind me and it felt the air pressure got really heavy in there 35 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,000 and it felt like the walls were getting closer and I had to get out of that room really quickly. 36 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Other people claim to have seen lights on in that very same room, but it is not wired for electricity. 37 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Unexplained footsteps, creaking boards, and whispering only add to the aura of the mystery of the Winchester House. 38 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Sara Winchester was heir to the Winchester Firearms fortune. She built the house for protection. 39 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,000 William Winchester. 40 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,000 William. 41 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:56,000 A spiritual medium in Boston had told Sara that the deaths of her husband and only child 42 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:01,000 were caused by evil spirits that had been killed by Winchester rifles. 43 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:06,000 The seers advice? Go west. 44 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:14,000 So Sara moved to California where she decided to turn a simple farmhouse into a mansion for the spirit world. 45 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:21,000 She had been told that here she would be safe from those vengeful spirits, but only if she kept building. 46 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:28,000 So for 38 years, 24 hours a day, construction continued. 47 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Today, the house sprawls over six acres of landscaped grounds. 48 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:47,000 It has 160 rooms, 47 fireplaces, 13 bathrooms, 52 skylights, and nearly 10,000 windows. 49 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Only Sara's death in 1922 brought the building to a halt. 50 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:58,000 In the end, she had spent nearly five and a half million dollars to build her safe house. 51 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,000 That's the same as around $53 million today. 52 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:09,000 Sara firmly believed that the house had kept her safe from harm. 53 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:17,000 Could that explain why some say she still walks the halls of Winchester House? 54 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:22,000 The most mysterious room in the house is the blue room. 55 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,000 That's where Sara conducted her private salonses. 56 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,000 No one ever set foot in the room while Sara was alive. 57 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Some believe it's still a doorway for visitors from another dimension. 58 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:41,000 Like Jack and John Stewart, they work at the house today. 59 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:47,000 If their claims are true, at least one Winchester employee from the past is still on staff. 60 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:52,000 And I turned around and looked down the hallway and I seen a man standing. 61 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:57,000 And then he disappeared. We went down to see if somebody was in the house. 62 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,000 And there was nobody there. 63 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,000 I never believed in spirits or ghosts or anything. 64 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:11,000 But I do have a belief now that there is something in this house. 65 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Something or someone we may never know. 66 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:29,000 In New Orleans, our hotel guests sharing their rooms with the dead. 67 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Next on Truth or Scare. 68 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:42,000 The gaggle will be back on Discovery News. 69 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Sara Winchester built her house specifically for ghosts. 70 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Today, tourists go there practically expecting an encounter with the unexplained. 71 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:59,000 But in one historic American city, visitors experience the spirit world the old fashioned way. 72 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Unexpectedly. 73 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,000 At the southern end of the Mississippi River, you'll find New Orleans, Louisiana. 74 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,000 One of the truly unique places in the world. 75 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,000 A place where time seems to stand still. 76 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Where the past mixes with the present. 77 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:28,000 And according to some, the living with the dead. 78 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:36,000 In the city's French Quarter, a jazz club called Maxwell's is said to be haunted by its violent past. 79 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Some say entering the club might just bring you face to face with a very deceased doorman. 80 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,000 A casualty from the bad old days of Mafia Rule. 81 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,000 It was late at night and I was cleaning up and everything. 82 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,000 And something caught my eye and I look up here to the balcony. 83 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,000 And for about two seconds, there was a sky state in there. 84 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,000 It just looked Italian and his hair slicked straight back. 85 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,000 It looked like kind of like a tuxedo or some kind of evening wear on. 86 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:14,000 And he was just looking at me and like smiling and then he was gone. 87 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,000 In another part of town is the southern night's bed and breakfast. 88 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Here they haven't seen any ghosts, but they're convinced they've got some uninvited guests. 89 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,000 There was such strange things that went on when I first bought the house. 90 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,000 I would hear sounds and whispers and voices. 91 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,000 My housekeeper, my son would come to me and say, did you call me and I hadn't. 92 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:46,000 When we first moved in here, that's when I first started to notice the first strange occurrences. 93 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,000 A few times when I walked in different rooms, the hair would stand up on the back of my neck. 94 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,000 As if someone was in the room with me and a light would turn on. 95 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Alarm clocks that would set off when I had made sure that all the alarm clock might disconnected. 96 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Doors locked themselves. 97 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,000 All these strange occurrences convinced Judy to call hauntings today. 98 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:14,000 A paranormal investigation company run by parapsychologist Larry Mons. 99 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:22,000 We conduct scientific investigations of phenomena and try to determine using scientific methods what's going on. 100 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Larry sent one of his staff to check out Judy's house. 101 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:30,000 I said, why don't you go around and look at everything and check out all the rooms. 102 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,000 So when she came back, she said, do you know you have an entity in the house? 103 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:41,000 Paranormal investigations are not widely accepted, but Larry Mons thinks his organization is different. 104 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:49,000 Our particular organization is a little unique in the fact that we use a combination of scientists as well as psychic investigators. 105 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:58,000 We have conducted numerous investigations in haunted hotels, just like the Bourbon Orleans Hotel here in the French Quarter in New Orleans. 106 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:07,000 This building was once home to St. Mary's Academy, St. John's Orphanage, and the world famous Orleans Ballroom. 107 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Hauntings today will be assessing what they believe are signs of paranormal activity. 108 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:18,000 There have been people walking by this particular guest room suite and have heard a little girl crying. 109 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Hotel managers proceed to go up there, knock on the door, no answer, walk in, no one's there. 110 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Actually, I've even had guests come to the front desk and tell me that in the middle of the night they were woken and heard the water running and got up and actually saw the water running, 111 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:40,000 turned it off, got back in the bed and have it happen two and three times still at night. 112 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,000 The investigation started in the lobby. 113 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Once the team entered, it was only a matter of seconds before the psychic said she felt a strange energy. 114 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Shannon, you getting anything? 115 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:57,000 I'm getting energy suppression up here and mostly from the front desk. 116 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Okay, go ahead. 117 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,000 The energy pulls them out of the lobby and up to the hotel's grand ballroom. 118 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:12,000 According to Larry, the room is full of strange electromagnetic energy readings and cold spots, which he says are very common in a haunted house. 119 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:20,000 We also experienced some poltergeist activity with one of the chandeliers that actually started to move. 120 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,000 Hold on, hold on. 121 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Did you feel that? 122 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Let's get a temperature reading. 123 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:31,000 But the most chilling image the investigators say they saw was eerily similar to one reported by a hotel maid. 124 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,000 They give you a list of vacant and rooms that you need to turn down. 125 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:47,000 When you close the curtains at night, you look across the courtyard and I saw none sitting in a window in a vacant room crying. 126 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:54,000 At first we had gotten kind of an impression or a psychic impression of a person standing all the way at the end of the hallway. 127 00:11:54,000 --> 00:12:02,000 And as we approached it, this none appeared and she turned quickly and moved through one of the doors of the room. 128 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,000 And as we entered the room, of course, she disappeared. 129 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:12,000 200 years after his death, does Abraham Lincoln still live at the White House? 130 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,000 Next on Truth or Scare. 131 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:27,000 New Orleans may be wilder, but the city of Washington, DC is just as fascinating. 132 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:34,000 As the seat of power for the United States government, everywhere you go, the nation's history surrounds you. 133 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:39,000 And some say the ghosts of historical figures might also be surrounding you. 134 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Claims of hauntings in Washington draw plenty of attention. 135 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:56,000 Historians say that the city of Washington is the most important city in the world. 136 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,000 Historian Stephen Lee Carson knows why. 137 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:09,000 One of the reasons Washington is so fascinating as a haunted city is not only because of all the power that's been involved, past and present and the forces, if you will, 138 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,000 but also the people who have verified these sightings. 139 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Congressman, senators, even presidents and first ladies have claimed they've seen ghosts. 140 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:27,000 When Queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands was visiting President Franklin Roosevelt, she stayed in the Lincoln bedroom. 141 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Late at night, there was knocking at the door. 142 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,000 The door opened. 143 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:38,000 And there, she said, was Abraham Lincoln. 144 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:48,000 Just down the street from the White House, you'll find the Octagon House, which was built back in the 1700s. 145 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,000 It's a national historic landmark now. 146 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:59,000 And according to Errol Platzer, the director of the house, there have been so many bizarre occurrences and unexplained phenomena here. 147 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,000 There's only one way to keep track of them. 148 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:10,000 We have a ghost file, as we call it, and we keep all the documentation that we can find on any ghost stories that have been told. 149 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:15,000 During the War of 1812, the Octagon was used as a temporary White House. 150 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:20,000 Today, some visitors have reported seeing images of first lady, Dolly Madison. 151 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Some even claim to have smelled her famous lilac perfume. 152 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:31,000 Others say they've heard strange ghostly sounds coming from inside a wall. 153 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:39,000 And many claim they have witnessed the sudden, unexplained swinging of the chandelier over the staircase. 154 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,000 Not far away at the United States Capitol building, 155 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:48,000 people say that the most haunted room here is Statuary Hall. 156 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:57,000 It was once the chamber of the House of Representatives, and visitors have sworn they heard John Quincy Adams in the middle of a passionate debate. 157 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:09,000 Some former security guards make a more shocking claim that late one night, the statues came to life and started dancing around the room. 158 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:14,000 These stories are definitely scary. Could they actually be true? 159 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:20,000 At the Center for Inquiry, ghost stories are just that. Stories. 160 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:27,000 As skeptics, they're in the business of looking for impartial scientific explanations of paranormal claims. 161 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:35,000 Joe Nickel is one of the center's investigators. It's his job to travel the country to check out places that are said to be haunted. 162 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Obviously we can't parachute into Peoria every time Mrs. Smith thinks she is a ghost, or every time someone sees a flying saucer somewhere. 163 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:51,000 But we do try to hit the bigger cases, and we do investigate paranormal claims. 164 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Joe Nickel investigates the appearance of a little girl at a hotel with a dark history. Is this mystery all in the mind? 165 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Next on Truth or Scare. 166 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:24,000 When people claim that a house is haunted, the stories are always fascinating. What if they're more than just stories? 167 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Investigators of haunted houses use many methods to explain the inexplicable, and sometimes they find very different answers. 168 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:51,000 That's exactly what happened here at Brookdale Lodge. Just south of San Francisco, Brookdale was once the place to be seen if you were rich and famous. 169 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:57,000 Movie stars and other celebrities came here all the time, dining and dancing the night away in the Brook Room. 170 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:06,000 But the Lodge has also been the scene of tragedy. A fire, flood and a young girl's drowning will never be forgotten. 171 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:13,000 Maybe that's why hotel employees like Jennifer Soto and Elan Gilboa are convinced Brookdale is haunted. 172 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Elan and I were cleaning up, getting ready to go, and I had heard some faint music, and I stopped and I said, Elan, do you hear that? 173 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,000 And he said, yeah, I do. 174 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:31,000 It was a mixture of people talking in the background and music, old time music. 175 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:36,000 Jennifer and Elan figured that some people had probably broken in for a little late night party. 176 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:43,000 So we got the keys and we were going to go in there and kick everybody out, and we opened up the doors and everything just seized. Nothing. 177 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,000 The room was totally empty. 178 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,000 It was scary a little bit. 179 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:55,000 There were other incidents just as startling. Another haunting had been reported. 180 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Guests and employees claimed they'd seen a mother and her young daughter in the Brook Room. 181 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Are they grim reminders of an unknown earlier tragedy? 182 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Joan Nickel, the investigator from the Center for Inquiry, has been called in by the owners of Brookdale to try and find an explanation. 183 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:22,000 I think the first thing that one tries to do with the haunted house is to gather data and see whether there is evidence, first of all, for some kind of hoax. 184 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:30,000 Brookdale struck me right away as not having the characteristics of overt hoaxing or prankery. 185 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,000 As a skeptic, Joe searches for plausible explanations for odd phenomena. 186 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Once a hoax or prank is ruled out, he looks for clues that something normal is being misperceived as paranormal. 187 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:54,000 While Joe leads the skeptical investigation, the team of parapsychologists Lloyd Auerbach and professional psychic Annette Martian have also been called in. 188 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,000 They're investigating the haunting from a believer's perspective. 189 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:05,000 In the field of parapsychology, we look at interactions of the human mind, living or dead, if you want to look at it that way, with other minds, with the environment. 190 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,000 Lloyd uses a magnetometer to measure magnetic fields in the area. 191 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,000 Annette Martian is psychically searching for the same magnetic fields. 192 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Everyone has electromagnetic field around their body, and I have the capability of being able to read that. 193 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:30,000 Right away, Annette claims she picked up a reading. It was of a young girl. 194 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:41,000 And I asked her her name, and she was very shy and very demure and didn't want to give me her name, but she said that she liked to be called Katie. 195 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:52,000 Is this proof that Brookdale Lodge has guests that never check out? When both investigations were complete, the conclusion was yes and no. 196 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:59,000 There's something out of the ordinary going on here in people's experience and in the environment based on our readings and based on what the people have picked up. 197 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,000 And this is warranting a second visit for sure. 198 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:19,000 I have not seen anything that seems to mean evidence of haunting or supernatural activity here, but I have seen a correlation between the people who don't believe in ghosts here, 199 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:26,000 who therefore have never seen one, and those who do believe, who do experience ghosts. 200 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:37,000 Are skeptics like Joe Nickel right? Do ghosts have to be believed in to be seen, or is the truth something else entirely? 201 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:50,000 We may never know for sure if haunted houses are real. The skeptics think that ghosts and hauntings are just ways for believers to explain the unknown. 202 00:20:50,000 --> 00:21:03,000 But for most people, the truth is a total mystery. One day, science may find an explanation and will know for sure. Or maybe, or better off, not knowing. 203 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:12,000 The truth is that the truth is not a lie. 204 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:17,000 The truth is that the truth is not a lie. 205 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:22,000 The truth is that the truth is not a lie. 206 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:27,000 The truth is that the truth is not a lie. 207 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:32,000 The truth is that the truth is not a lie. 208 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,000 The truth is that the truth is not a lie.